like, in theory, that's a ... (SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC) MARTIN: The book is called "Praying With Jane Eyre: Reflections On Reading As A Sacred Practice" by Vanessa Zoltan. Thank you so much, Vanessa.

And yeah, when I close the book on her birthday, I am also reminded how beautiful it is to fly. I never really thought of that ritual as a sacred practice ... but in theory that's a chaplain's ...